Atheism

● ●

"Atheism can be cured"

[OGMIOS 14.03.11]

CAMOUFLAGED OR NON CAMOUFLAGED

GODLESSNESS [ATHEISM] AND EGOISM

ARE THE ROOTS OF ALL FASCISMS

[OGMIOS 01.05.11]

An individual believing in something beyond of the physical senses

is no longer an atheist. [Ogmios 08.06.11]

Labyrintheism

BEGINS AS A LIFE WITHOUT HIGHER DIRECTION OR AS

THE CHOICE OF THE VACUUM

IT MEANS TO REMOVE YOUR ARMOUR WHICH SAVES YOU

AGAINST THE POWER OF DARK. SUCH ACT REPRESENTS

THE FIRST STEP TOWARD DISORIENTATION AND

FALL BACK INTO BARBARIANISM.

Atheistische Bezugslosigkeit

ist die Unkunst der leeren Worte, ein seelenloser Acker auf dem das Übel hochwuchert wie Unkraut im Dunkel des modrigen Hinterhofes.

Atheist unrelatedness

is the non-art of the empty words, a soulless land on which the evil overgrows like weeds in the musty darkness of the backyard.

Ogmios

Agnostic VX atheist

The agnostic does not know what to believe while the atheist does not believe. Not believing in something does not mean to be AGAINST. How can you be against something of which you do even not believe its existence, that would be a paradox per se. Unless you do not raise the non-belief as a new religion. Then things change radically. In that case the atheist becomes the biggest demagogue fascist ever existed. The damagogue of the religion of the vacuum.

An atheist who wants to eliminate religions is de facto an extremist fascist. NO sane individual will ever try to prohibit to another one his beliefs until they are based on benign roots/examples, except a fascist. Certainly in the case of malignant examples as of the bloody barbarians and totalitarian tyrants like Mohammed or Hitler, Lenin, Kim Yong etc... the subject changes."

L'agnostico non sa cosa credere mentre l'ateo non crede. Non credere in una cosa non significa di essere CONTRO. Come puoi essere contro una cosa se non credi nemmeno nella sua esistenza, sarebbe un paradosso per se. A meno che tu non elevi il non-credere come nuova religione. Allora le cose cambiano radicalmente. In quel caso l'ateo diventa il piu grande demagogo mai esistito. Il demagogo della religione del vacuum e non solo.

Un ateo che vuole eliminare le religioni e' di fatto un secco estremista fascista. NESSUNO puo voler vietare ad un altro le sue credenze finche si basano su radici/esempi di carattere benigno, eccetto un fascista. Certo nel caso degli esempi maligni come dei barbari sanguinosi e tiranni totalitari tipo Mohammed, Hitler, Lenin, Kim Yong etc... l'argomento cambia."

Ogmios 17.08.11

"Numbers of Christians in Europe falling remarkably"

911

20.12.11 [~ 2211] at 19:19 [~1199]

ATHEISM

MEANS DESINTEGRATION

● Ogmios, 22.08.11

The living example

to be followed by the Christians is Jesus Christ. One more example is being given in these days.

Which one

is the living example to be followed by the atheists if not the bloody historical figures: Hitler, Saddam, Pol Pot, Mohammed, Yong Kim and all the false gods plagiarists with bloody hands and the fruit of wickedness and of the spirit of selfishness and bastardy, which..

a] refuses to follow the examples of highest human and universal values given by incarnated spiritual masters such as Jesus Christ the Son, Krishna, Buddha, and so on, or..

b] shameless abuses of those masters their names for its own fascist unholy purposes.

[screen shot with 13 / 811]

● Atheist 24.08.11

It is not necessary to believe in a God in order to have values or to respect the next.

● Ogmios 24.08.11

What? WHICH values? WHO defines them with WHICH empty words? And even IF one randomly interpretes them without tangent in a right [DeXter] spirit, which may NOT AT ALL always be comfortable, then HOW LONG would you keep them before jumping to ANYTHING more comfortable, more populist, more profitable for yourself like the values of the socialization of child abuse or the values of the religious master race appointed to enslave their women and any under-beings or to your own self made values according to your own personal wishes, needs and self-understanding, what EVER it might be or become,

since for the atheist all that 'helps' is legitimate,

but instead I tell you it is 5TO [20]12 !!!
TIME TO DRAW CONCLUSIONS!!!

WITHDRAWAL

OF THE

CHRISTIAN VALUES

AND CONSEQUENCES

The Atheist

starts from the presupposition to be above of everything and everyone yet nothing exists beyond of his horizon. That is of course comfortable. Ideal for the lazy and selfish one, since there is no compulsive need to question your own convictions, needs and doing anymore. This is the logics of self-made [therefore: false] gods.

Ogmios 08.08.11

YOUTUBE CONVERSATION 25.10.11

● 'Semi-atheist'
you say that if you don't believe in yourself AND in god you are wrong. You should change that on that site to say that those who reject and deny the POSSIBILITY of a god are 'sinister', because they limit themselves...

● Ogmios:
It is a possibility that a roof tale falls onto your scalp next time when you leave your house. Godfather is no roof tale.

FIRST

comes the godlessness, then the false gods and the shamelessness.

Ogmios 12.01.12

ZUERST

fröhnen sie der Gottlosigkeit, dann kommen die falschen Götter und der Missbrauch authentischer, bis ihre Schweinereien grenzenlos und das Desaster perfekt ist. Danach waren es 'die Religionen', oder die sogenannten "Rechtsradikalen" [Ein Paradoxum das es per Definition gar nicht geben kann], ...nur nicht sie selbst.

Ogmios 18.12.10

The absolute minimum insight

a human must come to, is that "there is something higher, and greater". Who does not come to that minimum level, is a rootless creature, without any tangent, no armour, faceless, sand in the wind. Such individual is mathematically and logically at the doorstep to sinister populism and ideology [=antireligion]. Those are the first one converting to and taking part within the ideological system either before or after it takes its grip over a country. For a godless creature there is no reason anymore, why it shouldn't do so.

Ogmios 14.12.10

ATHEISM equal LAITY/LAICISM ?

1] Real laity

does not exist outside the spirit of Christ, the foundation of humanism, freedom of the individual, equality between men and women, democracy and Christian civilization. Those kind of 'lay people' which have problems with the Spirit of Christ are the FALSE laity, the sinister one, the camouflaged fascists, those who love the false plagiarized religions and ideologies and which abuse of everyone and everything, and which attitude has led to the bloodiest apocalypses that humanity has ever suffered due! Other than 'true' lay people...

2] NEVER a real believer can be a tyrant. It's UNTHINKABLE !!!

Mohammed was an atheist. Hitler was an atheist. Kim Yong, Saddam were atheists. Lenin, Pol Pot were atheists. Godlessness features the spirit of antichrist and unprincipled plagiarism in its thousand facets which infiltrates/abuses of everything and everyone! There exists no antichrist without -open or camouflaged- atheism

3] Christ is not a faith. Christ is a REALITY !! Here is speaking HIS living word. We are no longer talking about a question of believe but about a question of recognition or ignorance! WAKE UP !

● Atheist:

The religions are responsible for many wars and must be eliminated.

● Ogmios

Authentic religions will be the last thing eliminated, while the first thing will be the plagiarisms [ideologies under religious clothes] yet the camouflaged and non-camouflaged fascists which abuse of both authentic and false religions but then they say it wasn't them but the guilty of the religion, without ever clearly defining what they mean by "religion".

● Ateista

Le religioni sono responsabili per troppe guerre e vanno quindi eliminate.

● Ogmios:

Le religioni [autentiche] saranno l'ultima cosa eliminata, mentre la prima cosa saranno plagiarismi [a la islam] e i fascisti camuffati e non quali prima li abusano per poi dire che non lo sono stati loro ma che e' colpa delle religioni, senza definire che cosa intendono di "religiione".

14.06.11

1] Non esiste laicita reale al di fuori dello spirito di cristo fondamento dell umanismo, liberta' dell individuo, uguaglianza tra uomo e donna, democrazia e civilizzazione cristiana. Coloro 'laici' che hanno problemi con lo spirito di Cristo sono i laici FALSI, sinistri, i fascisti camuffati, quelli che amano le religioni false e plagiate e le ideologie e che abusano di tutto e di tutti e che hanno portato le apocalissi piu sanguinosi che l'umanita abbia mai dovuta subire ! ALTROCHE" laici" veri...

2] MAI un vero credente puo fare il tiranno. E' IMPENSABILE !!! Mohammed era un ateo. Hitler era un ateo, Kim Yong, Saddam erano atei, Lenin, Pol Pot erano atei. Empieta caratterizza lo spirito dell'anticristo e plagiarismo nelle sue mille sfaccettature che infiltra/abusa di tutto e di tutti! Non esiste nessun anticristo SENZA ateismo APERTO O CAMUFFATO!

3] Cristo non e' una fede. Cristo e' una REALITA' !! Qui' parla la SUA parola vivente !!! Non parliamo piu' di una questione di credenza o non, ma di una questione di riconoscimento o ignoranza ! SVEGLIA !

10.06.11

THE FATA MORGANA

OF ATHEISM

At the end of the day there exists no atheism at all, but is just another mask of the sinister gamblers behind which they can hide by saying

"it wasn't us".

Though the reality its the exact contrary.
In reality you have either a sinister god or a deXter god. The deXter [right] one is of a spiritual nature while the sinister one is a wealthy one, which is that one of the so called atheists. And right is right but left is wrong ...!

26.01.11

#14 Atheismus_ist_heilbar 10.01.12 at 19:09 on PI

Zitat:

"Jegliche Gottesvorstellung hält einer realistischen Überprüfung nicht stand?"

Bei Allah stimme ich zu. Bei Jehova nicht. Jeder glaubt etwas. Auch der Atheist glaubt vieles. Er glaubt ein Produkt des Zufalls zu sein. Glaubt durch Zufall aus einem Stein entstanden zu sein. Glaubt dass aus Nichts durch Zufall etwas entstand das dann explodierte und das Weltall wurde. Weder die Entstehung des ersten Lebens noch die Entstehung des Weltalls, noch die Entstehung von codierter Information durch Zufall, noch das Feintuning des Weltalls lassen sich wissenschaftlich beweisen und müssen vom Atheisten geglaubt werden. Es gibt vernünftige Gründe für die Existenz eines Gottes. Die Bibel mit eingetroffenen Offenbarungen, biblische Archäologie, Zeugenaussagen des alten und neuen Testaments, Erlebnisberichte von Menschen über 2000 Jahre die Erlebnisse mit Engeln oder Jesus hatten, Wunderheilungen über 2000 Jahre, Nahtoderlebnisse und Out-of-body Erlebnisse, persönliche Gebetserhörungen und Gefühl des Friedes und der Liebe im Herzen nach Gebet zu Jesus, codierte Informationen in jeder Zelle!, Feintuning des Universums, Komplexität der Schöpfung, Existenz von Liebe, Moral(Gewissen) und Selbstbewußtsein.

Kurz an Jesus Christus zu glauben ist ein begründeter Glaube.

981 ~ 189

312 / 56~11 => 8111

Original screen shot from 18:24 of 11.01.12

Note: These numerological hints are certainly not referring to the book itself but to the very pointing comment of "Atheismus ist heilbar" here above, figuring under this respective article. [Ogmios - Spirit of Truth]

Mankind has to realize that Islam is not a religion but a plagiarism = ideology, means nothing else than another form of atheism, indeed the most wicked one ever in the universe.

[Ogmios - Spirit of Truth]

WHO EVER SEPARATES

SPIRITUALITY [AUTHENTIC RELIGION] FROM SCIENCE [EVOLUTION] IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE CHILDREN OR DEMAGOGUES WHO FOUND WATER IN A SHELL BUT BELIEVED TO HAVE DISCOVERED THE OCEAN, OR CONFUSE A SINGLE PIECE WHICH THEY FOUND FOR THE THE WHOLE FINISCED PUZZLE.

RELIGION VX SCIENCE

In other words: It is not the question if religion or science, since religion is just a man made product around the spiritual teachers. So for those who have eyes and ears it is the question between spirituality and science, while I say you a scientist who believes to have the key in his hands without spiritual part is the same ignorant than the religious one who claims to have the key without science. Both of them see water in a shell but claim to see the ocean. Ogmios-biblical Spirit of Truth.

Ogmios 20.01.11

"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree" - Albert Einstein

["except the plagiats" - Ogmios]

spritected and added on 28.01.11

ATHEISTS

ARE THOSE WHO REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT THEY CAN DO WRONG YET

THAT THEY DID WRONG

JUST AS EVERY HUMAN DID SO.

added 13.03.11

ATHEISTS WHO CONFRONT ISLAM

the don't do that for any noble goals, in principle for a little less unnoble than their opponents, namely for their selfishness.

Atheisten die dem Islam entgegentreten tun dies nicht für edle Ziele, höchstens für etwas weniger unedle als deren Gegner, nämlich für deren Egoismus.

Ogmios 02.02.11

3 QUESTIONS FOR THE ATHEIST

1. We may agree that the truth is the counterpart of the lie. Now, would you deny the existence of the truth?

2. Do you really believe to be only a peace of flesh without feelings, heart, soul and/or spirit?

3. Do you really believe that all you can see and all what happens around you is only one unique gigantic coincidence?

3 QUESTIONI PER L'ATEO

1. Dimmi, secondo te' eiste la verita' ?

2. Tu credi veramente di essere solo un pezzi di carne, senza sentimenti, emozioni, senso di astrazione, quore, anima e/o spirito.

3. Tu credi veramente che tutto quello che tu vedi e che succede attorno di te sia solo una unica gicantesca coincidenza.

Ogmios 12.02.11

Altri argomenti atei

● Ateo

"Non mi serve il crocifisso per capire cos'e buono e male. E Cristo punisce i superbi.

● Ogmios

Gia il rifiuto di accettare un esistenza superiore universale e' espressione di ignoranza ed egoismo pressapoco insuperabile.
Non ti serve il crocifisso, dici. Come definisci tu allora il bene e il male. Ti rendi conto che sei un demagogo del vacuum senza nessuna tangente, cioe con i piedi in aria e la testa nelle nuvole. Le tue parole sono come una scatola vuota. Non ce nulla dentro, ogniuno puo attribuire il significato che gli pare. Se dici "morale" senza tangete lasci aperto l'interpretazione individuale. Il buon islamico p.es sotto morale intende ammazzare la figlia innamorata in un non-musulmano.

Cristo non punisce nessuno. I superbi si puniscono da soli, e Cristo AVVERTE sulle consequenze.

● Ateo

Tu prima hai detto che non conta ciò che le persone che si definiscono in un certo modo (es. i cristiani nella storia) hanno fatto, bensì ciò che una dottrina o ideologia o quello che è dice! Perciò, perché rinfacci ciò che fanno o hanno fatto gli atei se tu scegli di ignorare ciò che hanno compiuto i cristiani?

● Ogmios

Nessuno su questo mondo e' perfetto. Cosa conta e' la direzione! L'esempio da seguire vivente del cristianesimo e' Gesu Cristo.
Qual'e l'esempio vivente da seguire degli atei se non le figure storiche sanguinose: Hitler, Saddam, Pol Pot, Mohammed, Kim Yong e tutti i falsi dei plagiatori con le mani sanguinose frutto dell empieta e dello spirito umano egoista e bastardo che rifiuta di seguire gli esempi di piu grande valore umano ed universale.

● Ateo

Tu invece sei un volgare bigotto incapace di accettare le diversità rifiutendo altri religioni come l'islam.

● Ogmios

TU non nasconderai il fascismo con la scusa della diversita'.

Dalla tua bocca sinistrata la richiesta di pluralismo e' pervertita e bastarda come quando hitler o mussolini accusano i loro critici di essere i fascisti. VERGOGNIATI ! Tutto va bene, ma non il fascismo in qualsiasi veste arrivi, nazionale, sociale o religiosa, non fa differenza e va rifuituato nella maniera piu assoluta e piu decisiva.

06.03.11

ATHEISM MAKES FREE?

● Atheist

I don't need religion. I am a free person.

● Ogmios

For heavens sake. You're free for what? For going to restroom when ever you need? Free is an individual only when ready to go under the bridge or to be nailed onto the cross, rather than surrender to the powers of the falsehood.

"SONO UNA PERSONA LIBERA"

● Ateo

No ho bisogno di religion. Sono una persona libera"

● Ogmios

Ma per carita'. Libera di che cosa? Di andare al bagno quando sempre hai bisognio? Libero e' un individuo solo quando e pronto di andare a vivere sotto il ponte o di farsi inciodare sulla croce piuttosto di arrendersi ai poteri della falsita.

12.02.11

WOE THOSE WHO CONFUSE ATHEISM WITH

FREEDOM AND FREEDOM WITH DISORIENTING LAW DIFFRACTION &

MISSING RIGHTGUIDANCE

(=CHAOS)

LEADING THROUGH ARBITRARINESS

FINALLY TO TOTALITARIANISM

[OGMIOS-SPIRIT OF TRUTH 12.02.11]

19.07.11 DIVINE CONFIRMATION

ABOUT

1 LAW

RIGHT LAW

MORE ABOUT

THEISM/THEOCRACY VX

ATHEISM/FREEMASONRY

There exists much more then theism/theocracy and/or atheism, free masonry [non-tangented vacuum demagoguery] out there which both views represent just the two opposite militant extremes of one and the same topic, though both of them are the same wrong in the extent of their extremism because the truth is not extreme. The truth is balanced.

FREIMAUREREI

Um es in symbolischer Sprache auszudrücken:
Eva im Paradies war Freimaurerin.
Sie hat sich selbst über die Gesetze des Universums gehoben.

21.11.10

The man in a [still] free society

is [still] free to chose the non-choice.

Now, this was eventually a superficially comfortable way during the times of naked materalism only. Certainly a very short-sighted choice [and short-sightedness is certainly NOT an expression of intelligence] , though temporarily and superficially comfortable. Also one could argue that no choice is still better then a wrong choice. However, in such case one admits his own inability to do the right choice, which again is NOT a sign of intelligence.

In the coming decennies those 'non-choice people' may face serious problems with the Islam plague rising in Europe. Atheists will be the first one to be cursed and persecuted should islam take over. Though cowards as they are they prefer to criticize the church and the pope which will not hurt them while in front of islam they stick their head into the sand, hoping to stay save on that way.

OGMIOS, 27.02.2010

Essere ateo

non significa di essere CONTRO le religioni o contro Dio, ma di IGNORARLO, a meno che l'ateismo non lo vogliamo elevare come una nuova religione. E questo che vuoi ?

Non ti rendi conto. Stiamo vivendo il periodo biblico. La scelta che ce' da fare e' quella tra lo spirito di cristo e/o anticristo. L'ateo si astiene dalla scelta per evitare di fare la scelta sbagliata, ma questo non e' certamente un segno di grande intelligenza, se uno non sa dov'e sotto e sopra

To be atheist
does not mean to be AGAINST religion and against God, but to IGNORE it, unless you do not want to elevate atheism as a new religion. And why do you want?

You do not realize. We are living the biblical times. The choice that we have to do is that one between the spirit of Christ and/or anti-Christ. The atheist will refrain from choosing to avoid making the wrong choice, but this is certainly not a sign of great intelligence, if one doesn't know where is top and bottom.

Ogmios, 17.08.11

IF THERE EXISTS THE TRUTH [AND IT EXISTS AS THE LOGIC COUNTERPART OF THE LIE >] THEN ...HOW COULD ATHEISM EVER BE THE TRUTH?

SO, IN REALITY ATHEISM IS JUST ANOTHER KIND OF ESCAPE AND CHILDISH

EGOTRIP

OPENING THE DOORS TO THE

MANKIND'S ENEMY, LEADING INTO

THE DEAD END

THE ATHEIST'S

ANTI-ATTITUDE

● Ogmios

How can atheism be true?

● Atheist

How can you ask such a question when atheism obviously only tells you something about what a person is NOT.

● Ogmios

So, in other words, atheists do not know anything except of what they are not.

Well, sincerely, I coud hard immagine a poorer life philosophy than this one.

Are you aware that the NOT-'attitude' is the

ANTI-ATTITUDE

which has brought the bloodiest episodes over the mankind.

● Atheist

No, atheists can know and believe in plenty of things, they simply do not believe the claims made by theists that God actually exists, that is all.

● Ogmios

Everyone can say that.
Though I am a curious man, so tell me in WHAT 'they' believe in.

● Atheist

Ok, I will explain you that one for all: Atheists do not believe in a God. That's it. They do not have any common believes.

● Ogmios

Right. That is what I say. Thank you anyway for your correct confirmation.

20.01.11

DID YOU KNOW

...that all despots ever lived from Pol Pot to Kim Yong, from Saddam to Stalin, from Lenin to Hitler, Mohammed etc. were godless creatures [Atheists!] even though some among them had no scruples yet enough outrageousness to abuse of the name of the highest moral teachers this globe had ever seen for their detestable purposes ?

Hitler

was as much Christian as the bloody barbarian a holy one, or a cheap plastic plagiat a precious Vuitton bag. Who still insists may explain what Hitler and CHRIST have in common or stop such cheap sinister name gambling.

Hitler era tanto Cristiano quanto un barbaro pedofilo un santo, o quanto un plagiato chinese da 5 soldi una originale e preziosa borsa Vuitton. Chi continua insistere che Hitler era Cristiano ci spieghi cosa Hitler e CRISTO hanno in comune of finire di fare lo spiritoso che non sa dov'e' sotto e sopra!!!

OGMIOS 29.09.2010

DID YOU KNOW

...that

1. Jesus Christ [not an atheist] was the first humanist and enlightener of his calibre ever incarnated on this globe,

2.all the biggest despots ever lived have been godless [atheists] one, even though some of them abused of the name of some of the highest moral spiritual teachers for their unholy aims,

3.that atheists [apostles of the spiritual vacuum] are merely not able to distinguish between authentic religion [christianity, buddhism, hinduism, bahai etc..] and ideologies like nazism, leninis and islam,

4.the first democratic CIVILizations constitution has been founded not by Atheists but by CHRISTIANS and has been sworn in on the bible [=foundation of the United States],

5.a handful of predicted CHRISTIANS TRUTHFULS [not Atheists] have had the conviction and courage to rise their voice and confronted the arising evil of islam fascism defending CIVILization at a time when no one opened his mouth , -and which today has become a worldwide movement on all level.

OGMIOS 03.10.2010

SAPEVI CHE...

1. Gesu Cristo [e non un ateo] fu il primo umanista del suo calibro mai incarnato su questo globo,

2. Tutti i piu grandi despoti mai vissuto erano individui senza Dio [atei], anche se alcuni di loro hanno abusato del nome di alcuni dei piu alti maestri spirituali e morali per i loro scopi scellerati;

3.Che gli atei non sono in grado di distinguere tra religione autentica [Cristianesimo, Buddismo, Induismo, Bahai ecc.] e ideologie come il nazismo, leninismo o l'Islam.

4.the la PRIMA costituzione DEMOCRATICA e CIVILE di questo mondo e stata fondata non da atei, ma da cristiani ed e stata giurata sulla bibbia [= fondazione degli Stati Uniti]

5.una manciata di predetti CRISTIANI VERITIERI [e non atei!] hanno avuto la convinzione e il coraggio di alzare la loro voce di fronte al male derivante dall'Islamofascismo per difendere i valori CIVILI nel momento in cui nessuno apriva bocca, e che oggi e diventato un movimento mondiale su tutti i livelli.

OGMIOS 03.10.2010

JESUS CHRIST AN ATHEIST?

Jesus Christ was not affiliated to any religion/church. Jesus Christ didn't even preach organized religion but individual BELIEVE in GODFATHER and the DIVINE SPIRIT characterized with

Love, Truth, Authenticity, Believability, Honesty, Altruism, Freedom, Humanism, Common Sense

Under such viewpoint you could define HIM as a DEIST.

Though such kind of highly vulnerable life-philosophy makes only sense for mankind until any kind of dangerous ideological basics such as political communism, socialism, and other ideologies those plagiarized substitutes of the authentic religions, will be banned by the society and its leaders and opinion makers. Also the society and its leaders have definitely to be ready to fight the arising of any such ideology since from the beginning, including respective law making.

In reality Jesus Christ is the Beginning and the End, the ALPHA and the ΩMEGA and there exists no corner in which HE can be put.

After the coming Purification Era, the new Era will finally begin, with the:

NEW REAL COMMUNIONISM UNDER 11:11

[NOT THE POLITICALLY IMPOSED ONE]

THE ERA OF HIGHER RELIGIONS and AUTHENTIC SPIRITUALITY

will begin.

For the underwritten, as the one whom HE has risen up,

Jesus Christ was certainly the greatest and most revolutionary

thinker AND DOER ever lived on this globe.

Now let me question the atheist:

ISN'T ATHEISM JUST

ANOTHER WAY

OF CHEAP CONFORMISM BY

GIVING UP THINKING ?

Ogmios

ISLAM IST KEINE

ALTERNATIVE

ZUR WAHRHEIT !

"Immer wieder erstaunlich ist die Naivität offensichtlich linksgerichteter Diskussionsteilnehmer, die aus einer kirchenfeindlichen Position hoffen, mit der Förderung des Islam den Einfluss des Christentums in der Gesellschaft noch weiter zurück drängen zu können. Mancher ist sich da wohl nicht bewusst, was er sich im Gegenzug ins Land holt". 23.04.2010 gesehen auf PI >

THE ESCAPE - DIE FLUCHT

Atheism is no position taking but the decision for no position, for the nothing. In other words: Atheism is an ESCAPE !

Atheismus ist keine Stellungnahme sondern die Entscheidung zu KEINER Stellungnahme. D.h. eine FLUCHT !

L'ateismo non e' una presa di posizione, ma la decisione di non prendere nessuna posizione. Cioe' UNA FUGA !

[Ogmios 28.04.2010]

27.05.2010 conversation on youtube

● Anomym: We atheists are civilized, instructed and friendly, as soon as you finally finish to kill each other between Catholics, Protestants, Muslims and Hebrews we will dominate the earth and burn your books.

● Ogmios: Those qualities will not help you at all until you be not ready to defend them, and so -as an atheist- you will be the first one hanging down from the crane, 'civilized, instructed and friendly'...

● Ogmios: In any case with a bit of intelligence one understands the pacific character of the message and testimony of Christ, Buddha, Krishna and others yet of what great intelligence and spirituality they were, in a total contrast to the pedofile barbar.

● Ogmios: Politicians and power hungry 'leaders' abuse of everything: ideologies, racism, religion for power grip and wars though this is not the fault of the authentic spiritual teachers [except of the pedofile barbar which was the false one teacher]. If you mix all this up then you are either lazy because you consider it too stressing to think down to the roots or you are stupid.

It is as it is.

ERASMUS

ERADICATE EUROPE

Note: The European Project of Atheism is called Erasmus after Darwin, though Erasmus is deducted from Latin radicare/eradicare = eradicate, cancel, whip off. So this is people which aim to ERADICATE 2000 YEAR OF EUROPEAN IDENTITY & CULTURE

NATURAL LAWS =

NATURAL INTELLIGENCE

Everything existing

from microcosmos up to the macrocosmos, atomic particles, physical laws, chemical laws, plants, genetics, galactic laws, planetary laws, universal laws, fibonacci laws, etc.. follows certain natural and supranatural laws. The existence of highly intelligent laws premises the existence of a respective high intelligent source/origin i/e intelligence. Laws can not make themselves. The simple existence of laws requires a creative entity who put them in place.

Alles existierende im Univesum bewegt bzw entfaltet, verändert oder rückentwickelt sich auf Basis von Gesetzen die teils nachweisbar sind, die Menschheit in deren Umfange aber nur zum Teil begreifen kann. Gesetze setzen bekanntlich Intelligenz voraus.

Tutto ciò che esiste segue certe leggi naturali e sovranaturali. L'esistenza di un network di leggi intelligenti premette l'esistenza di [un network] di grande intelligenza.

04.09.2010

LAWS DO NOT MAKE THEMSELVES

YOUTUBE CONVERSATION

● OGMIOS

LAWS DO NOT MAKE THEMSELVES.

The whole universe from the microcosmos up to the macrocosmos is wired and being kept together by highly complex/intelligent laws. Intelligent laws require respective intelligent creative entity.

● ATHEIST

Physical laws are DESCRIPTIVE not PRESCRIPTIVE. As such they are merely describing consistent phenomena. Are you claiming that nothing can be consistent without some intent making it consistent? Consider that in a universe where nothing is consistent no life could evolve, no intelligence would exist to consider questions of consistency.

● OGMIOS

I quote you with "Consider that in a universe where nothing is consistent no life could evolve, no intelligence would exist to consider questions of consistency."

No way! Consistency is a fake. In reality consistency doesn't exist. In reality everything existing is ENERGY. NOTHING consistent. Consistency exists for your eyes, for our physical senses, which can perceive only that part of condensed universe which is vibrating in the frequency we are currently living in.

Second point:

Natural laws are of pure prescriptive nature, while the observer can deduct certain rules setting up a descriptive law, trying to predict certain outcomes which however is seldom successful since mankind knows only a tiny part of the whole story. There are laws out there over which existence mankind hasn't the least idea. Anyway, I don't see the point. Still LAWS DO NOT MAKE THEMSELVES.

15.11.10

LAWS DO NOT MAKE THEMSELVES

YOUTUBE CONVERSATION

● OGMIOS

LAWS DO NOT MAKE THEMSELVES.

The whole universe from the microcosmos up to the macrocosmos is wired and being kept together by highly complex/intelligent laws. Intelligent laws require respective intelligent creative entity.

● ATHEIST

The laws of physics and maths are determined, and still being determined by us. WE'RE the intelligent identities using observable fundamental laws of existence to explain things. The fact that the macrocosmos appears to have rules is merely our observation of reality, speed is relative to distance and time, and all other permutations of those 3.

The universe isn't being held together by laws, the properties OF the universe are what we observe as laws; mathematical descriptions of how things are.

● OGMIOS

What do you want to say, that physical laws are no longer laws ???

1] "mathematical descriptions":

Mankind observes and is trying to put up mathematical descriptions of those laws trying to understand them, since they are far to complex for the mankind's simple mind. You can't say that laws are no longer laws for the simple fact that we do not fully understand them.

2] "the fact that the universe appears to have rules".

APPEARS ? You joking ??? You never heard about physical laws? gravitational laws, the correlations between time space and materia, genetics, fibonacci laws, chimical laws, simply all non-man made laws from top to bottom. LAWS DO NOT MAKE THEMSELVES!

3] "property".

A property is nothing else than a result of laws. So do not put things upside down just to keep your vacuum-world alive.

19.11.10

06.05.11- The teams re-confirmation for

LAWS DO NOT MAKE THEMSELVES!

This day I got the youtube notice about an answer left by another user on some postings which I posted on a youtube video several months ago. As I went back to that video page I found all numbers belonging to the video were composed of the digits 1,2,4.

uploaded: 04.01.2011

votes: 14 likes 0 dislikes

= 4214121114, summing up into 21 [everything 1,2 and 4]

The digits 1,2,4 = GOD's WILL !

In oder words: This is the divine authoritis re-confirmation that universal laws are nothing else than the expression of Gods Will, or

GOD's SPOKEN WORD

Here the respective text:

● Atheist

The laws have not necessarily to be made by anyone they have been created by the universe and thats it.

● megatown

Well, that's' indeed the last of the paradoxes I ever heard. It's like saying "I was in the rain without an umbrella because I'm wet".
CREATION is 'an act or of order or of chaos. ORDER being expression of organization and therefore of intelligence, requires INTELLIGENT ORGANIZATIONAL LAWS. Since the universe IS ordered in all its components, on all levels and in all the details, the universe can not be anything else than an

ACT OF ORDER

The next absurd theory is that one trying to reduce everything to a theory of a

QUANTUM MECHANICS &

QUANTUM COLLAPSE STATE
YOUTUBE CONVERSATION

● OGMIOS
the whole universe from the microcosmos up to the macrocosmos, plants, solar systems, EVERYTHING existing, is wired and being kept together by highly intelligent laws. Intelligent laws require respective intelligent and creative entity. It is impossible for any honest being to ignore such fundamental basics like 1+1=2

● SCIENTIST-ATHEIST
what evidence do you have that the laws are intelligent laws you need to prove that first premise before you can build your line of logic.

● OGMIOS
Would you deny that the universe is organized from the microcosmos up to the macrocosmos, from the plants, all living forms, through to the genetics, interaction of space time and gravitation, fibonacci etc.. everything is organized and ORGANIZATION IS EXPRESSION OF INTELLIGENCE.

● SCIENTIST-ATHEIST
No it is not. The organisation is a product of the collapsed quantum state following the initial expansion. It is a reflection of what is. Things are what they are because they got to be that way. We are made up of organic molecules because these are common elements with certain properties that come from their nature not because god wanted it to be so. You are making a huge leap here and your logic is not sound.

● OGMIOS
Stop putting the world upside down in the hope to get it away with your egoism, by saying that laws are a reflection of their results, this is naked nonsense which even a kindergarten child realizes can not work.

● SCIENTIST-ATHEIST
The laws are what? The laws are the product of the universe cooling. Before it does you can have no laws for gravity or electromagnetism. The properties of matter are derived from the collapsing quantum state that determines the nature, amount and form of the matter. Prior to that there can be no laws for matter as there is no matter. The changes in the universe create the 4 forces and how they operate because before that there is only quantum gravity and super hot plasma

● OGMIOS
To be honest, I have never heard such a nonsense. Universe cooling is the result of respective universal physical and energetic laws [this concrete law says that: expansion = cooling] not more and not less, but not inverted.
Why you don't try to explain your demagoguery for instance to any law maker on this globe. Tell them that their laws are the product of the results of it...// then let me know what they answer you. Most probably they will ask you if you shouldn't have a visit by the doctor?
The four forces [strong nuclear force, the electromagnetic force, the weak nuclear force and the gravitational force] are part of the universal complex and they are expression of working energy [energy is the potential to do work, while work is a function of force], just as the whole universe, every single atom, particle, is finally nothing else than condensed energy. Tell me: Where is the SOURCE of that endless amount of ENERGY and of the ORGANIZING INTELLIGENT LAWS managing all this?

● OGMIOS
Quantum mechanics is a scientifically improvable word gambling game which is based on pure hypothetical potential outcomes used to put in question any real outcome of measurement. This is the trial to lift science above of itself by applying pure hypothetic mechanic theories as a replacement of inexplicable realities ignoring: will, life, feelings, heart, soul, emotions, sense of abstraction, spirituality...This is perverting science, making a new demagoguery by denying the most basic principles of life yet putting upside down cause and effect. Scientists can not make laws, they can only try to understand the existing one or try to define them or to find some possible theories for realities which they can not explain. In reality there is even not one single natural law which is even nearly perfectly defined or definable because everything is relative and scientists laws work perfectly only on paper - pure theory! Even the best of them are all just approximations from A to Z, let alone those 'playground theories' like quantum mechanics.

● OGMIOS
You say. "Things are what they are because they got to be that way." Though our quantum theory without any organizing universal laws would produce nothing else than the perfect chaos. You're not only denying that laws do not make themselves, but even that free will exists. Your theory says for instance that a human has no chance to resist to its instincts. I don't know how sick, cold and soulless an individual must be for such a flathinker life attitude without any spirit.

● SCIENTIST-ATHEIST
Before the fucking universe cools to the point of having matter what are the laws for matter? Before there is gravity what is the laws for the conversion of potential energy to kinetic energy (something that also cannot fucking well exist before there is fucking MATTER!!!!!). These laws do no exist for the simple reason that the things they pertain to don't exist. How hard is that to understand you fucking retard? These laws are a reflection of the collapsed quantum state.

● OGMIOS

Who orders the cooling of the universe if not the physical law. Matter is condensed and organized energy, according to the universal laws. Why you don't simply answer my questions where the endless amount of energy comes from and who put all those endless complex wired organizing laws into place. YOU ???
Finally try to explain the will with your matter !!!

MATTER IS ENERGY. ENERGY DOES NOT MAKE COMPLEX ORGANIZING LAWS BUT CAN BE ORGANIZED BY RESPECTIVE LAWS, AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Also the law of expansion=cooling IS A LAW!

WOULD YOU THAT FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGE ?!

12.04.11

Fitting Google logo on this same day 12.04.11:

Original picture name: "firstmaninspace11-hp-js.jpg"

[11] [hp] [js converts into: 88]

Note also: The date today = 12.04.11 composed of the digits 1,2,4 = God's Will

Note also: 1961 is the year of birth of Ogmios. In this year the first man left the earth while the divine spirit came in though Ogmios Spirit of Truth and the inspired legion in order to conquer the mankind's consciousness by persuasion - and will NEVER LEAVE AGAIN from here.

Another sinister empty word gambler product:

"EVOLUTIONARY MECHANICS"

● Atheist

There is no such a thing as design, what you see around you is evolutionary mechanics. That means nature adapts to its circumstances in order to achieve certain actions.
These laws that you speak about are not designed, they are harnessed by constants (the need).
Once you understand quantum mechanics you well understand that laws are constants (the need) not designs.

● Ogmios
Whaaat??? Again we are at the level of animals and even lower. Your theory says for instance that a human has no chance to resist to its instincts. Common! No mechanical "need" will ever explain the beauty of a flower, of a diamond, the passion for nature, sport, helpfulness, children, or the fascination one can feel for any beautiful something. etc?
Anyway, Call it as you want you peace of evolutionary mechanics flesh, if your flesh works like this then it does it according to respective laws. WHO makes those laws YOU peace of flesh ???

Stop selling people for stupid!
5TO[20]12 !!!
Ogmios- biblical Spirit of Truth 01.07.11

SCIENZA ATEA

FISICA QUANTISTICA

MECCANICA QUANTISTICA

Ma quale fisica quantistica. Se non sanno nemmeno cosa sia luce, se sia un elemento di consistenza o solo di onde figuiriamoci se sanno cosa sia Dio e la creazione, Pero gli stessi 'scienziati' atei demagoghi del vacuum erano all'altezza della scoperta che gli ebrei siano una razza inferiore da estirpare e hanno fatto i servili auitanti dei tiranni piu' sanguinosi che questo mondo abbia mai visto.

CHI MAI SEPARA SPIRITUALITA [religione autentica] DA SCIENZA [EVOLUZIONE] E 'COME UNO DI QUESTI BAMBINI O demagoghi che trovando l'acqua in una conchiglia credono di aver scoperto l'oceano.

La meccanica quantistica è un gioco di parole scientificamente indimostrabile, che si basa su dei possibili [potenziali] risultati puramente ipotetici utilizzati per mettere in discussione qualsiasi risultato di misura del reale. Questo è l'ennesima tentazione della 'scienza' atea di sollevarsi sopra di se stessi mediante l'applicazione di teorie meccaniche puramente ipotetiche come sostituto delle realta' scientificamente inspiegabili, ma oltretutto ignorando i vettori della vita come volonta'/vitalita'/ sentimenti,cuore, anima, emozioni, senso di astrazione, spiritualità ...

Questa è pervertire la scienza, facendo una nuova demagogia negando l'esistenza delle leggi universali che non si fanno da soli ma sono frutto del creatore!
Che morale ha un quantum, e da dove la prendi TU la morale.

Ogmios - biblical Spirit of Truth 22.07.11

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tubed and added on

21.05.13

The contradictoriness of

SOCIALIST sciences

mehr →

Atheists generally tend to put in doubt the existence of the

FREE WILL

We all know that biology, experiences, conditioning play a role in our decisions. That is good as it is since mankind is in a process of evolution though learning. That doesn't mean that we are soul- spirit yet will-less machines. What a misunderstanding of the human metaphysics! Certainly the degree of free will depends on the individuals maturity and personality, that means the final parameter is and remains the free will. Or would you seriously state that a human with a strong will has no chance to resist to its instincts ?

Ogmios 13.04.11

'Faith consists in believing what is beyond the power of reason to believe. It is not enough for a thing be possible to be believed'
[Voltaire]

GESETZ = AUSDRUCK VON INTELLIGENZ

Auszug aus einer Diskussion mit einem Atheisten: "Gesetz setzt Intelligenz voraus. Da man die Tatsache der Existenz von natürlichen/universellen Gesetzmäßigkeiten in schier unendliche Form und Komplexität nicht leugnen kann, kann man auch die Intelligenz die dahintersteht nicht leugnen. Nennen darfst du sie wie du willst, aber Intelligenz leugnen ist halt per se kein Ausdruck von Intelligenz, und das meine ich nicht angreifend auch wenn es unter Umständen so rüberkommen sollte."

04.09.2010

YOUTUBE CONVERSATION

"EVIDENCE"

● Ogmios: Atheism in the sense of 'free of orientation' is no solution. Atheism does not give sense to your life. Atheism can not give ANY answer on ANY of the 'cardinal questions' of your life.

● Anonym: No, Atheism answer that "cardinal questions" in a different way. Atheism is based on evidences. Get over it. Try to be less narrow minded and more respectful, please.

● Ogmios: WHAT evidence?

Prove me that the sky is blue and if you come with the lights wave length then prove me that light exists and so on. FORGET THE EVIDENCE! The only evidence existing is your character and your values. What character and what values can give you atheism except of evidence which doesn't exist.

Atheism is against the believe in the higher values of your life, and so it paves the way to wicked minded ideologies like nazism, communism or Islam. This is why atheism is somehow even a danger. The only good thing in atheism is: It can put you into a position do to your own independent research for the truth. Unfortunately only very few atheists go this way. Far too few. The others tend to relativism >.

● Anonym: There is no need to be religious in order to have values.

● Ogmios: Depends about what "values" you are talking. And even if you have 'christian' values rather than capitalistic or leninistic or islamic one, it does not mean that it would hurt to believe in something higher, rather it will help you to not lose the track.

25.09.2010

ATHEIST REQUIRES "EVIDENCE" FOR SPIRIT

● YOUTUBE-ANSWER

In response to an atheist requiring a "rational evidence" for the existence of spirit here my answer:

There exists no evidence. For nothing. Prove me that the sky is blue, and if you come with the lights wave length then prove me that light exists and so on. As you can be fanatic demagogue you can be or become a fanatic rationalist. Both of them are basically fascists in their mind. I am really sorry to have rattled your short sighted constructions of the fascism of rationalism. Indeed you are more near to Hitler than anyone other. There is enough so called "RATIONAL EVIDENCE" against the Jews being the guilty one. Right ?

11.10.10 OGMIOS

THE THREE WAYS OF LIFE

1st way you believe in the right principles [Jesus Christ, Buddha, Krishna etc]

2nd wayyou believe in no principles [Atheism]

3rd wayyou believe in the wrong principles [ideologies like islam nazism, communism]

Be aware: The second way opens the door to the third one.

27.09.2010

YOUTUBE CONVERSATION 29.09.2010

● megatown

Atheism is a term which has to be defined. If Atheism is godlesness [means a life without any higher principles] then Atheism is the door to the ideological plague like islam, nazism, fascism, communism. NEVER a person which actually believes in the Spirit of Christ could become a despot like Hitler etc... NEVER !!!

● anonym

Technically spoken, atheism is just the rejection of a belief in the existence of a deity. While theism is the belief of the existence of a deity. An atheist would get his morals from compassion, empathy, common sense ...the culture they are brought up in and personal views. Theists typically take their morals from a book, because god told them so...and if they do not comply, they will burn in hell.

Very simply speaking of course

● megatown

At this point we are entering in pure philosophical word plays. Who has ever shown us more compassion, empathy, common sense than Jesus Christ? Name also Krishna, Buddha and others. So, who ever has those values has God and in a degree in which he has [and lives!] them. Anyway, it will not hurt to believe in something higher even far beyond of our understanding and open your ears for its ways to bring us spiritual food step by step the portion mankind is able do digest in its respective status of evolution/development. Indeed it will not only not hurt, it will even help you to keep on track, think about.

● megatown

I think that everyone has got a brain in order to use it, not in order to ignore it. ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE > is one of the eternal universal laws. However, who prefers to run around blindly, shall run around blindly or hide behind letters. Its his own choice. The problem is that inactive mind becomes stupid and at some point the blind one will start do accuse the others for his mistakes consequences. Then it becomes a real problem. This is what we are experiencing today with islam which prohibits to the individual to become a free thinker and doer, in contrast to Christianity, where Christ himself told us: "you will do greater things than I" >

YOUTUBE CONVERSATION 29.09.2010

FREE SPEECH

● anonym

Free speech is a product of secularist civilization, and it was not achieved thanks to Christianity, but in spite of it. Islam worships Ala, who is the same abrahamic god, the same chimera of the Old Testament, a book of Christianity as well. Still, you are free to utter your gloriously stupendous stupidities.

● megatown

Secularist civilization is fruit of Christian CIVILization. You don't know that CHRIST [which was the first human ever nailed onto the cross for FREE SPEECH] was a civilist, the same as me - Spirit of Truth - predicted by Christ 2000 years ago. You don't know that across the globe only in societies based on the Christian spirit a progressive society with functioning democracy, free markets and civilism has ever developed? You don't know that a couple of years ago, after fatwa's and murders against Rudi Carell, Salman Rhusdy, Van Gogh and others when you cowards were hiding behind the curtains we the truthfuls were the first one who went out on you tube with the sword of the word, to confront the islam plague on their own channels, fighting for and defending our FREE SPEECH, braking down the monstrous wall of fear, taboo and demagoguery, at the price of uncountable life threatening posts, emails, text messages in my box. I have never hidden my address or anything. Though where have YOU been at that time? Behind the curtains! And now YOU want to tell me that free speech is YOUR fruit ?

...more about free speech →

..find all facts and answers in regard to Allah the pagan moon-god here >

DID YOU KNOW?

THE FIRST

CIVIL&DEMOCRATIC CONSTITUTION

OF THIS WORLD

The American constitution - the first democracy of this world- has been sworn in by its founding father [like Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Marin Luther, Benjamin Rush, etc ... ] on the BIBLE!

The founders of the democratic CIVILization have NOT been Atheists, ...[as they likely tend to believe, trying to lift themselves up above all non-atheists] ...but have been

CHRISTIANS!

The first declaration of human rights in mankind's history is to be found in the old testament:

In 1:26, Moses writes, “Then God said, ‘Let Us[*] make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.’”

[*]The plural is a reference to the Trinity; but also an attempt to avoid the idea of an immediate resemblance of humans [as a fallen part of creation] to God.

So this is the holy declaration that every person, man or woman, is created in Godfathers image, without any restriction, neither for race nor gender nor the intelligence nor the faith. This scripture has been described as the greatest revolutionary statement and has without any doubt changed the world fundamentally. God bestows to man the greatest conceivable dignity: God's image. Everyone has a right, therefore, that this dignity is respected. And every state has a duty to protect that dignity by laws and may enforce by legal means. This universal declaration of human dignity includes also the individual freedom. Now dignity in Islam has likely a contrarian meaning than in the Christian or other authentic religious spirits So, for the right interpretation/definition of the [emptied] terms like "dignity" Jesus Christ has given example along with the author of the present pages to fill those words with the living word for the third millennium.

Dignity: Everything that helps to bring an individual [incarnated spirit] forward is to be defined as worthy [=dignity]. In the case of a mass murder or sinister dictator and his functionaries, this can even be the death penalty, because it will be the only act able to awake a repentance in such obsessed individuals. Repentance however is the first step toward healing. And healing is dignity.

Die allererste universelle Erklärung der Menschenrechte finden wir im Alten Testament in 1. Mose 1,26-27: „Gott schuf den Menschen nach seinem Bilde, nach dem Bilde Gottes schuf er ihn, als Mann und Frau schuf er sie.” Gott erklärt also, dass jeder Mensch, Mann oder Frau, nach seinem Bild geschaffen ist, und zwar ohne jegliche Einschränkung, weder der Rasse noch des Geschlechts noch der Intelligenz noch des Glaubens. Dieser Bibeltext ist als die größte revolutionäre Aussage bezeichnet worden. Keine Frage: Dieser Satz hat die Welt grundlegend verändert. Gott spricht dem Menschen die größte denkbare Würde zu: Gottesebenbildlichkeit. Jeder Mensch hat daher ein Recht darauf, dass diese Würde respektiert wird. Und jeder Staat hat die Pflicht, diese Würde durch Gesetze zu schützen und unter Umständen mit rechtsstaatlichen Mitteln durchzusetzen. Diese universelle Erklärung der Würde des Menschen beinhaltet zugleich seine individuelle Freiheit

[Pastor Adel Fouad on PI ]

Ogmios 05.12.10

Epicurus Epikur? Was hat ein Epikur ausser in schöne Worte verpackt denn grossartiges vorgelebt? Welche revolutionären Prinzipien des zwischenmenschlichen Daseins hat er durch sein eigenes Beispiel lebendig gemacht?

Epicurus Epikur? Tell me, beyond of nice sounding but empty words what kind of extraordinary life example has Epicurus given to the mankind?

Ogmios 01.02.10

Note: Christianity deducts directly from the word CHRIST not from Church nor Bible or clergy or anything else! Anyway, one thing does not exclude the other, though there is no compulsion. So, Christian culture or spirit - in its basic definition includes everything which has the core of humanism and civilization within.

Note: Pre-Christian Greek "Democracy"?: The old Greek invented the word democracy, not more not less. Modern definition of democracy means the rule of the folks, that does not apply to the Greek model, with extra rights reserved to a privileged cast only, while the folks and even women had no votes, which is not in the spirit of humanism. Though democracy without humanism is no democracy. You can't lift democracy [which is just a structure e/o a result] above humanism [which is the spirit, groundwork, foundation]. How can a structure be legitimated without its foundation. While the definition of humanism is very clear and unmistakable. There is no higher way than that one of Jesus Christ > , HE the greatest humanist ever, who has risen the underwitten →

Ogmios 11.10.10

APROPOS PRE-CHRISTIAN GREEK DEMOCRACY →

HITLER A CHRISTIAN ?→

18.10.10

● Posting of Anonym on youtube:

Hitler was a christian catholic!

● Answer Ogmios on youtube:

Maybe Hitler was catholic, but then he was ATHEIST catholic. In other words he was catholic on the paper but ATHEIST in his mind.

Certainly Hitler was NOT A CHRISTIAN !

If you claim the contrary, then tell me what Hitler and Jesus Christ had in common, or stop your populist lies.

The definition of CHRISTIANITY is not deducted from church nor from bible or clergy, but from CHRIST !

A part of that Hitler was a murderer of priests. Nazis removed the crucifiXes from schools, and he admired islam pest.

Keep that in mind one time for ever and stop justify the abuse of the spirit of Christ hiding behind some 3rd degree sentences of the historicized old testament well knowing that the new testament standing on the pillar of the living word of Jesus Christ represents the primary guideline of Christianity.

"They bow before the letter of the law but violate the heart of the law" [Jesus Christ the Great Genius, speaking over the word gambler wolves like you.

Zitat Adolf Hitler

„Hätte bei Poitiers nicht Karl Martell gesiegt: — das Christentum ist so etwas Fades —, so hätten wir viel eher noch den Mohammedanismus übernommen, diese Lehre der Belohnung des Heldentums: Der Kämpfer allein hat den siebenten Himmel! Die Germanen hätten die Welt damit erobert, nur durch das Christentum sind wir davon abgehalten worden“:

„Adolf Hitler Monologe im Führerhauptquartier“ 28.08.1942)

HITLER & JIHAD PRINCIPLE

scrap222666 wrote on youtube:

Ironic. His Hitler example. Hitler actually used the Jihad principle to start the war. If you study it Hitler got the people to support this war by using propaganda how "Polish Germans are subhuman and oppressed" and they must defend them. So it was a defensive action for the people. Same way some Muslims are fighting western oppression of Islam and America as a "defensive" act and Jihad. How is this concept any different? This "defence" is still very attack minded.

19.10.11

27.11.10

Hitler Zitat:

"Man ist entweder Christ oder Deutscher. Beides geht nicht"

„Mit den Konfessionen, ob nun diese oder jene: Das ist alles gleich. Das hat keine Zukunft mehr. Für die Deutschen jedenfalls nicht. Der italienische Faschismus mag in Gottes Namen seinen Frieden mit der Kirche machen. Ich werde das auch tun. Warum nicht? Das wird mich nicht abhalten, mit Stumpf und Stil, mit allen seinen Wurzeln und Fasern das Christentum in Deutschland auszurotten (...) Man ist entweder Christ oder Deutscher. Beides kann man nicht sein (...).

Wir beenden einen Irrweg der Menschheit. Die Tafeln vom Berg Sinai haben ihre Gültigkeit verloren. Das Gewissen ist eine jüdische Erfindung. Es ist wie die Beschneidung, eine Verstümmelung des menschlichen Wesens. Eine neue Zeit der magischen Weltdeutung kommt herauf, der Deutung aus dem Willen und nicht aus dem Wissen. Der christlichen Lehre von der unendlichen Bedeutung der menschlichen Einzelseele und der persönlichen Verantwortung setze ich mit eiskalter Klarheit die erlösende Lehre von der Nichtigkeit und Unbedeutendheit des einzelnen Menschen und seines Fortlebens in der sichtbaren Unsterblichkeit der Natur gegenüber. An die Stelle des Dogmas vom stellvertretenden Leiden und Sterben eines göttlichen Erlösers tritt das stellvertretende Leben und Handeln des neuen Führergesetzgebers, das die Masse der Gläubigen von der Last der freien Entscheidung entbindet."

27.11.10 mit Dank an yoububer EmirAbuLulua >

Interessante, intelligente Inhalte zum Thema bei "Prüfen und Handeln"CH. >

Hitler

"You be either Christian or German. Both can not be."

"With the confessions its with all the same. This has no future. At least not for the Germans. The Italian fascism, in the name of God, might make his peace with the Church. I will do this too. Why not? That will not stop me eradicate Christianity in Germany down to the roots and fibers(...) You are either Christian or a German. Both can not be (...).

We put an end to the wrong path of humanity. The tablets from Mount Sinai have lost their validity. Conscience is a Jewish invention. It's like circumcision, a mutilation of human being. A new era of the magical world view comes up, the interpretation out of the will and not out of knowledge. The Christian doctrine of the infinite importance of the individual human soul and personal responsibility, I confront it with icy clarity by the saving teaching of the nothingness and insignificance of the individual and his survival within an apparently immortal nature. In place of the dogma of vicarious suffering and death of a divine Redeemer enters the living and acting Führer-lawmaker, which releases the mass of the faithful from the burden of free choice. "

Provided on 27.11.10 by EmirAbuLulua >

Hitler

"O sei Cristiano o sei Tedesco. Emtrambe e' impossibile."

Anche Hitler aveva le immagianzioni di diventare un profeta destinato di eradicare gli ebrei. Ha fatto vere e proprie prediche rispettive usando il vocabolario rispettivo come se fosse un papa in guerra. Ma questo non ti permette di conforndere il Socialismo nazionale con religione. Invece questo succede con l'islam. Perche la gente e' ignorante, non riesce a distinguere il bianco dal nero, la verita dalla bugia, l'onesto dall abusatore.

"Con le confessioni e' con tutte lo stesso dilemma. Questo non ha futuro. Almeno non per i tedeschi. Il fascismo italiano, in nome di Dio, potrebbe fare la sua pace con la Chiesa. E cosi' farò anch' io. Perché no? Questo non mi fermerà di sradicare il cristianesimo in Germania giu' fino alle radici e le fibre (...) O sei cristiano o sei tedesco. Entrambe e' impossibile (...).

[citazione Adolf Hitler]

HITLER BELIEVED IN GOD ?

● Atheist

I've not once said he was a Christian.

HITLER DID BELIEVE IN GOD THOUGH AS STATED IN MANY OF HIS SPEECHES AND HIS BOOK.

● Ogmios

His speeks and his books are full of empty words which have even not the value of a cent. Hilter knew PERFECTLY that he would need religion for his power purposes exactly as the pedophile bloody barbarian it knew. WHO EVER believes in God will follow the examples of the highest teachers this globe has seen from Christ to Buddha to Krishna and others. All other with the bloody hands are nothing than gambles bastards. abusing of them. WHAT ELSE.
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I mean... do you have a brain cell to be used by your own, or are you forced to blindly believe even the word of a bastard like Hitler without questioning them for contradictions???

Ogmios 13.03.11

The "Gott mit uns" [God with us] of Hitler has the same value of the 'Islam is religion of peace".

Ogmios 14.03.11

HITLER ARIAN MESSIAH

Hitler was trying to find a way to become an Arian messiah. He was desperately trying to construct a respective [false] story. Herefore he abused of both Christianity and Buddhism, Himmler even studied Hinduism. One of the myths they tried to construct is that the Arian race originated from Tibet. For this purpose they sent a delegation to Tibet with the task to find some [falsified] connections/proofs. This is why they chose the Buddhist swastika buddha as the Nazi symbol. As Hitler realized the 'Asia construction' would not work out, he changed tactics and tried to sell himself as a Christian-type prophet. Tibetan rituals were reinterpreted as originally Christian one. He [Hitler] held respective speeches using respective vocabulary, as if he was a war pope. So, although Hitler was less successful [he wasn't enough hypocrite for this kind of business] with those plans, he tried exactly the same as Mohammed, trying to make of himself a prophet and blood thirsty slaughterer and imperator in one [A Christ and an Antichrist in one!]. Both of them [Hitler and Mohammed] were the same PERFECT GODLESS CREATURES = ATHEISTS ABUSER PACK. YOU ROOTLESS GODLESS ATHEIST GAMBLERS must finally stop to abuse of EVERYTHING including religion!!

Ogmios 17.12.10

"Mit einer beachtlichen Fülle

von neuen Quellen aus Archiven und NS-Schriften weisen Victor und Victoria Trimondi nach, dass der Nationalsozialismus nicht nur eine "politische Bewegung" war, sondern dass er zunehmend in eine "politische Religion" transformiert werden sollte. Namhafte faschistische Kulturwissenschaftler ebenso wie obskure Okkultisten diskutierten vor allem in Heinrich Himmlers SS-Ahnenerbe offen darüber, wie das Dritte Reich "metaphysisch" zu verankern sei.

Dabei blickten sie mit Faszination in den Osten: In den Philosophien, Mythologien, Visionen und Dogmen, in den sakralen Praktiken -- darunter die Kalachakra-Riten -- und Texten der spirituellen Traditionen Asiens glaubten sie, "Orientierungen" für eine "Verherrlichung des Krieges", für die "Apotheose des Führers" und für die "Vergöttlichung der arischen Rasse" entdeckt zu haben."

Buchrezension Hitler-Buddha-Krishna bei Amazon.de

tubed on 18.12.10

As a godless

[SINISTER] individual [Atheist] you live in a world of perfect confusion. You don't know the difference between religion and church, you don't know the difference between religion and ideology, not to mention that an atheist has no tangent, that means your words are without any value because meaningless, empty, everyone can fill them just as he want.
What it means:
You waste your time.Keep in mind one thing. Authentic religion bases on the living peaceful example of the authentic archetypes and can NEVER be the reason for violence. But its YOU SINISTER GODLESS BASTARDS who abuse of it as you abuse of EVERYTHING, nationalism, socialism, religion FOR YOUR GODLESS UNSCRUPULOUS SELFISH PURPOSES. Afterward you can hide and say it wasn't me, it was the religion. Even Hitler himself openly admitted to be a SINISTER one like you. “Based on the idea of the NSDAP we are the German leftists. [...] nothing we hate more than the dester liberals and privatists.” – Joseph Goebbels

Ogmios posting from 17.12.10]

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Hitler cercava di trovare

un modo per diventare un messia ariano. Cercava disperatamente di costruire una rispettiva storia [falsa] abusando di entrambi cristianesimo ed il buddismo, Himmler ha anche studiato l'induismo. Uno dei miti che hanno cercato di costruire è che la razza ariana originasse dal sud dell'Asia. Per questo scopo hanno inviato piu' di una delegazione in Tibet con il compito di trovare [falsificati] connessioni/prove. Questo è il motivo per il quale hanno scelto il buddha svastica come simbolo nazista. Quando Hitler realizzava che la 'costruzione Asia' non avrebbe funzionata, ha cambiato tattica e ha cercato di vendersi come profeta cristiano sempre incaricato da Dio di eradicare gli ebrei. Ha tenuto discorsi rispettivi usando il vocabolario rispettivo, come se fosse un papa in guerra. Così Hitler ha seguito esattamente le stesse strategie di Maometto, anche se con molto meno successo. Entrambi erano le stesse CREATURE ATEE [!!] ABUSANDO DI RELIGIONE!

IIVS.de

Nun erfährt man aber in Goebbels "Tagebuch" (II. 14), daß es,...

wie ihm Hitler verriet, nach einem Endsieg des Dritten Reichs allen "konservativen" Kräften, vor allem dem Christentum, an den Kragen gegangen wäre.

Es war schließlich, wie Dahrendorf sagte, die Moderne, die 1933 in Deutschland ihren Einzug gefeiert hatte, während die Rechte, die "Reaktion" am 20. Juli 1944 das so linke "Rad der Geschichte" zurückdrehen wollte, was aber leider nicht gelang.

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added 05.07.11

ATHEISM = THE LACK OF A BENIGN LIFE EXAMPLE/ARCHETYPE

TO BE FOLLOWED

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TYRANNY = FRUIT OF ATHEISM

youtube conversation 19.10.10

● Ogmios

Its you atheist egoistic godless soulless people on your endless egotrip who led the world into all disasters from Hitler to Stalin from Kim Yong to Mohammed, even though some of your sinister staff abused of definitions like "religion" or of the names of the authentic heavens teachers for their unholy purposes of power and misery unscrupulous egoism. SHAME SHAME SHAME !!!

● Anonym

There has never been a single instance where a leader has lead a genocide on the basis of atheism.

● Ogmios

The facts tell the exact contrary.

NEVER any person which TRULY believes in the spirit of Christ, or Buddha or Krishna, or in their "God" or simply in their benign life example can or will become a barbaric tyrant of the stamp of a Hitler, Kim Yong, Saddam, Mohammed, Stalin, Pol Pot etc etc etc. THOSE BARBARIANS AND TYRANTS ARE INSIDE ALL SINISTER > UNSCRUPULOUS ATHEISTS AND POPULISTS !!! and as if this would not be enough some of those bastards after all even abuse of the names of the great authentic spiritual teachers.

APROPOS BARBARIANISM

LONDON 2012

15 Year old boy tortured to death [ 0 ]by his own relatives.

DATE 06.01.12 =

611 // 112~ 211

101

injuries

years old boy

THIS MESSAGE:

Atheism [211] the same as the spirit of Antichrist [611] are both manifestations of the godlessness leading to the slow but sure giving up your principles, ending in the loss of sensibility, shame and scruples, finally culminating into

BARBARIANISM

WHICH IS THE FACE OF DEATH,

101

THE ENEMY OF LIFE

These developments inside the individual are so slow [creeping] that the individual itself does not realize what is going on with it. No old excuses with the middle age church burning witches. The church was part of the middle age but not vice versa. Everyone knows that he who follows the Spirit of Christ can and will never and never again end in barbarianism. It is UNTHINKABLE!

BARBARIANISM

IS NOTHING ELSE THAN

THE CULMINATION OF

GODLESSNESS !

GIU I CROCIFISSI?

E allora cosa proponi per la pace, l'ateismo, la filosofia del nulla e niente?

Se siete proprio voi individui senza spirito che avete portato i disastri piu grandi sull'umanita', da Hitler, a Mohammed, da Lenin a Saddam da Pol Pot a KimYong tutti creature senza spirito della verita' ma

GENTE SENZA DIO, ATEI DELLA BUGIA!

youtube 21.10.10

DAS KAMEL

& DER NORDPOL

STOL: Sie beschäftigen sich täglich mit den kleinsten Bausteinen der Materie. Stellen Sie sich auch die Frage: Was dahinter steckt? Anders gefragt: Glauben Sie an einen Gott?

Dissertori: Ich suche wissenschaftliche Antworten auf solche Fragen. Ich glaube nicht an einen Gott. Für mich ist die Natur an sich faszinierend genug. Bei der Religion – zumindest bei der katholischen – spielt die Ethik, also das moralische Verhalten des Menschen, eine große Rolle. Ich brauche aber keinen Gott oder eine Kirche, der mir ständig sagt, was für ein moralisches Verhalten richtig ist und welches nicht. Man muss es selber wissen.

Zitat STOL.it ►

Ogmios:

Warum wisst ihr es dann nicht.

[Und was nützt vermeintliches "Wissen" ohne Charakter, vermeintliche "Fakten" die dem menschenfeindlichen Mißbrauch preisgegeben werden und vermeintliches "Gutsein" im Dienste des falschen Friedens und dessen heuchlerische Scham- u. Skrupellosigkeit. In Wahrheit kratzt die menschliche Wissenschaft nur an der Oberfläche. Von den WAHREN "Gottesteilchen"; also jenen die die WAHRHEIT von der LÜGE zu unterscheiden wissen, seid ihr in eurer Welt ohne Prinzip so weit entfernt wie ein Kamel vom Nordpol, während dem der das Prinzip hat, in seiner geistigen Heimat alles Wissen des Universums zu Füßen liegt ]

05.07.12

Update 08.07.12

THE CAMEL

& THE NORTH POLE

STOL: They deal daily with the smallest components of matter. Do you consider the question: what is behind it? In other words: Do you believe in a God?

Dissertori: I am looking for scientific answers to such questions. I do not believe in a God. For me, nature is enough fascinating in itself. In religion - at least for the Catholic - plays the ethics, the moral behavior of man, a great role. However, I need no God or a church that tells me constantly what moral behavior is right and what not. You have to know it yourself.

Quoted from STOL.it ►

Ogmios:
So, why then you do not know it.

[And what good is supposed "knowledge" without character, what good are alleged "facts" which are disclosed to the inhuman abuse and to the alleged "goodness" in the service of false peace and its hypocritical shamelessness and masked unscrupulousness. In reality the human science barely scratches the surface. From the REAL "god particles" - thus from those which are able to distinguish between TRUTH and LIE - you are in your world without the principle as far away as a camel from the North Pole, while to him who the principle has, in its spiritual home all knowledge and wisdom of the universe lies at his foot]...