RELIGION IS NOT A STATUS [CONDITION] BUT A

PROSPECT!

FOR THIS REASONS AUTHENTIC RELIGION CAN NEVER MAKE A STATE.

 RELIGION IST KEIN STATUS [ZUSTAND] SONDERN EINE

PERSPEKTIVE!

WESHALB AUTHENTISCHE RELIGION NIEMALS STAAT MACHEN KANN,

WEDER IN DEREN WURZELN DIES ZUM ZIELE HABEN KANN.

RELIGIONE NON E' UNO STATO MA UNA

PROSPETTIVA!

QUINDI RELIGIONE AUTENTICA MAI POTRA' FARE LO STATO.

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum
In the name of religion has been made so much crap, that religion has to be banned.

● Ogmios
What is religion for you? What are you talking about the dirty stories of humanity or about the examples of great human character, believability, principles and spirituality which have given to mankind by the greatest characters ever incarnated ?
 

If Hitler abused of Christ, who's fault is it?
It is not a sign of great intelligence to confuse the stories of those who abuse with the stories of those being abused. Don't you think so? Is this the fault of the abused one, or a problem with the ignorance of those people like you- who do not know where is up and down ?

If Hitler and/or Mussolini abused of Christ and entire folks followed them euphorically spitting into face of Christ. Whose fault is it? Is it Christ's fault or the ignorance of people like you? And why after abusing of Christ, the same sinister ideologist argue in a way as if Hitler would have been the founder of Christianity? WHY?

If the church is a mirror of society which lives through the support of the latter one, and the society requires the church to not oppose to their führer, whose fault it is? Of the church or of the sinister mind i/e of the ignorance of certain people like you?

Those sinister minded people

which condemn the religions, are mostly ideologists. Actually this is the kind of people which tends to abuse of EVERYTHING, including of religion for their sinister ideological targets which have brought the most bloody episodes ever over humanity.

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum
In theory all religions not just Christianity, preach the good.

● Ogmios
First of all we need to clarify whether we speak about authentic religion or about the plagiarized one, the so called Islam does not preach the good but the blood, terror, imbalance and pedophilia under the guise of religion. Point 2: Even all ideologies and all the tyrants who have ever lived from Hitler to Stalin, Saddam Mohammed, Kim Yong Pol Pot preached the ultimate peace. Though what value has the empty word?? The only thing that matters, is 'the REAL LIVE EXAMPLE!

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum
I think those values ​​of love and brotherhood taught by religions can be applied easily without believing in a God and that feelings of trust and respect can be harbored in the heart even by atheists, right?

● Ogmios
I see. This is the typical language of the goodist.
The do-gooders or goodists are the first to submit to the doctrine of blood and terror, no matter in which camouflage it comes across, whether as a national socialism, an international socialism or a religious fascism. YOU goodists are always the first one to fall on your knees before the plague making the henchman of the tyrants and their functionaries.

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum

The failure is of that one who created us, since he made ​​us as evil, and who makes such mistakes can not be a god one, nor benevolent. In my opinion if humanity had not had any gods at this time we would be living at peace, under one banner, exploring the space. (citation: Bill Hicks).
 

● Ogmios
Please. Stop being a baby! I suppose you to be an adult, then why you do not act like this. It shouldn't be an unreasonable requirement for an adult to act like an adult, i/e in a responsible way. God created us [if we want to use this terminology for processes which we can not define with our words] pure but not sublime and endowed with free will, that means with the possibility of doing right or wrong choices. Whose fault is it if we decided for the temptation despite knowing the inevitable and natural consequences?

Point two: Did you ever see a society without inspiration? Are we humans or machines? The question is not if we need examples and/or inspiration or not, but WHAT inspiration by WHICH example.
As long as humanity has not the truth  [and/or the true God] - which has become reality in the live example of his Son in spirit Jesus Christ- as long people  will create or run after false gods, idols and their ideologies and that leads to selfishness, confusion, chaos, totalitarianism, war. THIS is the standing argument, but not the vice versa.
The problem is not the sinister inspiration ► per se, the problem lies in the inability and/or unwillingness of the people to apply for the right [=CREDIBLE] choice, because the truth seems uncomfortable to them, at least less comfortable than the lie.

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum
I saw societies without brain, relying solely on the action of a divine being which requires full confidence in spite of the worst possible life on this piece of earth. I do not behave as a child and I'm not saying that God does not exist, I'm just saying humanity should learn to leave behind the mistakes made by their fanaticism, and learn to see things as they are and make the intellect to their one true god.

● Ogmios
The societies you mention are the societies which I had just described, including the causes. The Christian spirit however, does not require the submission but the COMMITMENT TO USE THE BRAIN - SAY INTELLIGENCE, ALONG THE HEART, IN THE SENSE OF LOVE AND ACCEPT THE CHALLENGES OF FREEDOM. BUT IN ADDITION TO THE APPRECIATION OF THE NATURAL LONG TERM BENEFITS OF THOSE [PROFICUOUS] VALUES THERE IS ALSO NEEDED THE STEADY WILL TO DEFEND THEM WHEN NECESSARY.

Now tell me who has problems with the spirit of Christ if not the open and camouflaged fascists and their functionaries and minions.

02.08.11

update 03.08.11 on PI >

Deutsche [vorgebliche!] Christen sehen beim Islam feige weg

Quand'e' und PRESUNTO individuo religioso

un individuo religioso,  o un tipico ideologo

abusando [!] di religione ?

● Demagogo del vacuum

In nome delle religioni sono state fatte così tante stronzate che, scusa se te lo dico, ma vedere uno che ancora oggi la pensa come te mi fa proprio cadere le palle!!!

● Ogmios

Cos'e per te religione? Di cosa stai parlando ? Delle storie umane o degli esempi di grandissimo carattere, di principi di credibilita' e di spiritualita' che ci hanno dato i piu grandi personaggi mai incarnati?
 

Se Hitler

e/o Mussolini abusano di Cristo e interi popoli li seguono euforicamente sputando in faccia a Cristo. Colpa di chi? Di Cristo e dell'ignoranza della gente come te? Non e' un segno di grande intelligenza confondere le storie di chi abusa con le storie di chi viene abusato. Non credi? Colpa degli abusati, o colpa dell ignoranza della gente -come te- che non sa dov'e sotto e sopra?  E come mai dopo aver abusato di Cristo sempre gli stessi sinistri ideologi argomentano in in una maniera come se Hitler fosse stato il fondatore del Cristianesimo ? COME MAI ?
 

Se la chiesa e' uno specchio della societa' che vive dal supporto di questo'ultima, e la societa' pretende dalla chiesa di non opporsi al loro fuehrer, colpa di chi? Della chiesa o della mente sinistra, cioe' dell' ignoranza della gente come te?
 

La gente sinistra che condanna le religioni ama le ideologie. In realta' e' proprio questa gente con le sue ideologie ad abusare delle religioni per i loro fini sinistri creando gli episodi piu sanguinosi che l'umanita abbia mai subita.

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum

In teoria tutte le religioni, non solo quella cristiana, predicano il bene.

● Ogmios
Prima di tutto bisogna chiarire se parli delle religioni autentici o del plagiato chiamasi islam non non predica assolutamente il bene ma il sangue e la pedofilia.

Punto2: Anche tutte le ideologie e tutti i tiranni mai vissuti da Hitler a Stalin, da Saddam a Mohammed, da Kim Yong a Pol Pot predicavano di portare la pace finale. Ma cosa centrano le parole vuote??? L'unica cosa che conta e' l'ESEMPIO DAL VIVO !!!

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum
Io penso ke quei valori di amore e fratellanza insegnati dalle religioni si possono applicare benissimo anke senza credere x forza in un dio.Sono sentimenti che albergano anke nel cuore degli atei.Basta avere fiducia e rispetto x altri,no?

● Ogmios
Vedo che sei al tipica buonista.
I buonisti sono i primi a sottomettersi alla dottrina del sangue e terrore, non centra nulla in quale veste arriva, se come fascismo nazionale, fascismo communista o fascismo religioso. VOI siete sempre i PRIMI a scendere in ginocchio davanti alla peste per fare i SCAGNOZZI dei tiranni e i loro funzionari. Ma per carita. MA PER CARITA!!!

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum

Il fallimento e' di chi ci ha creati, poichè ci ha fatto malvagi, e chi fa questi errori non può essere un dio, non benevolo almeno. Secondo me se l'umanità non avesse avuto dei in questo momento noi saremmo in pace, sotto un'unica bandiera ad esplorare lo spazio. (cit. Bill Hicks).

● Ogmios
Ti prego. Smettila di fare il bimbo!.Suppongo che tu sia una persona matura e allora perche non ti comporti come tale. Non sara' mica un requisito eccessivo per un adulto di comportarsi come tale, cioe responsabile. Dio ci ha creati [se vogliamo usare questa terminologia per processi che non riusciamo a definire con le ns parole] puri ma non sublimi e dotati con libero arbitro, cioe con la possibilitta di fare le scelte giuste o sbagliate. Colpa di chi se ci siamo decisi per la tentazione pur conoscendo le consequenze inevitabili e naturali?

Punto due: Ma tu hai mai visto una societa senza ispirazione? Siamo umani o siamo macchine ? La questione non e' se esempi e/o ispriazione o meno, ma QUALE ispirazione da QUALE esempio.

Fin quando l'umanita' non ha la verita' e/o il dio vero -cioe' quello diventato realta' nell esempio dal vivo del suo figlio in spirito Gesu Cristo- la gente inizia a crearsi o a correre dietro ai falsi dei, idoli e le loro ideologie che portano all egoismo, disorientamento, caos, totalitarismo, guerra. QUESTO e' l'argomento che sta in piedi, ma non viceversa.

Il problema non e' l'ispirazione per se. Il problema e' l'incapacita e/o l'involonta o il rifiuto di certa gente di fare la scelta giusta cioe' CREDIBILE, per il semplice fatto che la verita' le sembra poco comfortebole, o almeno meno comfortevole della bugia.

● Goodist - Demagogue of the vacuum

Ho visto società senza cervello affidarsi solamente all'agire divino di un essere che pretende la piena fiducia nonostante la vita su questo pezzo di argilla sia la peggiore possibile, io non mi comporto da bambino e non dico che dio non esista, dico solo che l'umanità dovrebbe imparare a lasciarsi dietro gli errori commessi dal proprio fanatismo ed imparare a vedere le cose come se l'uomo e l'intelletto fosse l'unico e vero dio.

● Ogmios

Le societa di cui tu parli sono le societa' che ti avevo appena descritto, includendo le cause. E allora perche mi ripeti. Lo spirito Cristiano non richiede la sottomissione ma L'IMPEGNO DI USARE IL CERVELLO, CIOE' L'INTELLIGENZA, INSIEME AL CUORE, NEL SENSO DI AMORE e di ACCETTARE LE SFIDE DELLA LIBERTA'. MA OLTRE AD APPREZZARE I BENEFICI DI TALI VALORI CE ANCHE IL BISOGNIO DELLA VOLONTA DI DIFENDERLI.

Ora dimmi, CHI ha problemi con lo spirito di Cristo se non i fascisti camuffati e non e i loro scagnozzi.

updated 03.08.11

KORAN VX GRUNDGESETZ

"DIE BEDROHTE FREIHEIT" pdf-document

    tubed on 16.10.2010       

  

ISLAM = VERFASSUNGSWIDRIG

Der Islam ist eine politische Religion, die ihre religiöse Rechtsordnung, die Scharia, durchsetzen will.

Das Christentum ist demgegenüber nachhaltig säkularisiert. Es trennt das Religiöse vom Politischen, das Jenseits vom Diesseits, die Kirche vom Staat. Nur eine solche Religion kann den Schutz durch das Grundgesetz beanspruchen. Das ist die Logik des Religionspluralismus. Die Säkularisation ist die größte Kulturleistung Europas. Kein Bürger darf in einer Republik, die demokratisch sein muß, das Wort Gottes über die Gesetzgebung und die Gesetze stellen, und keiner darf versuchen, durch Mehrheitsentscheidung das Gemeinwesen zu einem Gottesstaat zu machen. Das mißachtet die Grenzen der Religionsgrundrechte.

Es kann kein Widerstandsrecht aller Deutschen gegen jeden, der unsere Verfassungsordnung zu beseitigen trachtet, und zugleich ein Grundrecht geben, dies zu unternehmen. Der Islam würde sein Wesen als Lebens- und Rechtsordnung aufgeben, wenn er sich säkularisieren wollte oder sollte.

Prof.Dr.Schachtschneider auf PI

 

 

 

FREIHEIT DES BEKENNTNISSES

VX FREIHEIT DER AUSÜBUNG

Schachtschneider kritisiert die Rechtsprechung des Bundesverfassungsgerichts scharf, weil es die Religionsfreiheit als grundgesetzlich geschützte Religionsausübung interpretiere. Das jedoch, so Schachtschneider, gebe das Grundgesetz nicht her. Geschützt sei darin lediglich die Freiheit des Bekenntnisses und nicht die Ausübung. Gesetzwidriges könne nicht über den Umweg erlaubt sein, daß man es als Religionsausübung praktiziere. Verbote, die sich auf den Minarettbau, den Ruf des Muezzins oder bestimmte Kleidungsstücke beziehen, stellten demnach keinen Eingriff in die Religionsfreiheit dar, weil das Bekenntnis davon unberührt bleibe. [Erik Lehnert]

weiter auf PI

 

 

ISLAM=

ANTICONSTITUTIONAL
Islam is a political religion which seeks to impose their religious law, the sharia.

In contrast to Islam Christianity is secularized and separates the religious from the political world, the life on this world from the afterlife, the church from the state. Only such a religion can claim constitutional protection. This is the logic of religious pluralism. The secularization of Europe is its greatest cultural achievement. In a republic which has to be democratic, no citizen should lift the word of God over the civil laws, and no one should try to make the community to a theocracy by majority decision. This disregards the limits of religious rights.
It cant exist a right of resistance against anyone trying to remove our constitutional order, and at the same time also a fundamental right which permits to do so [to remove the constitutional order]. Islam would give up its nature as a life- and legal system, if it wanted to [or should] secularize.

Prof.Dr.Schachtschneider [Constitutional lawyer] on PI

 

ISLAM=

ANTICOSTITUZIONALE
L'Islam e una religione politica che vuole imporre la sua legge religiosa, la sharia. Il cristianesimo invece e' secolarizzato, e separa il religioso dal politico, l'aldila da questo mondo, la chiesa dallo stato. Solo una tale religione puo' pretendere la sua tutela ai sensi della costituzione. Questa e la logica del pluralismo religioso. La secolarizzazione dell'Europa e' la nostra piu grande conquista culturale. In una repubblica che deve essere democratica nessun cittadino deve elevare la parola di Dio sopra la legge civile e nessuno dovrebbe cercare di fare dalla comunita' una teocrazia via decisione di maggioranza. Cio non tiene conto dei limiti dei diritti religiosi. Non puo esistere un diritto di resistenza contro chiunque tentasse di rimuovere l'ordine costituzionale, e allo stesso tempo anche un diritto fondamentale che lo permettesse. L'Islam perderebbe la sua natura come sistema di vita e di diritto se volesse secolarizzare.

[Prof.Dr.Schachtschneider- Costituzionalista] su PI

    17.02.11              

KORAN = VERFASSUNGSWIDRIG!

PDF-Dokument ►

Islamwissenschafter Pastor Fouad Adel M.A.

[Dank an Micha u. Reiner]

27.07.12

DIE FREIHEIT fordert: KORAN-DEKRET ►

DIE FREIHEIT requires: KORAN-DECREE ►

14.06.13

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Musterbeweisantrag für Islamgegner

in  Juristendeutsch formuliert

IF

we generally [mis]interpret the term 'fundamentalist' [=fundament/basis] or 'radical' [=root/rooted] as a person which is willing to use violence to achieve their goals and to impose their convictions, then...

.. a 'Christian fundamentalist is the same paradox as a fundamentalist conservative, a fascist democrat, a righteous deceiver or as bourgeois communists etc.. Those terms exclude each other. Fundamentalism is a classic trait of the sinister imbalanced SS-sociopathic soul, which stands in a contrast to the stability of the more conservative, balanced individual. Thought the sinister souls are indeed the world champions on the field of misleading manipulation of the language. Where does this end? It then ends in a situation where the truth, freedom, democracy etc will be officially defined as militant / radical / subversive  [we know this from the socialist systems of the 19th century, and the same manipulation is back into fashion today in connection with the intentional islamization]  and the lie [incl.fascism in all its hypocrites facets] as moderate.

● Taqiyya functionary

See the Crusades are proof that there is fundamentalist Christian.
 

● Ogmios
The Crusades were made by ordinary people like us, tired of being suppressed, enslaved, slaughtered by the barbarians, and which after centuries of subjugation were determined to make an end to their situation. Not more 'and not less.
 

● Taqiyya functionary

The mass-murderer in Oslo was a Christian fundamentalist
 

● Ogmios
This is not that easy: Hitler also said to be a Christian. In reality however he was a perfect Antichrist who abused of Christ his name.  But for the sons of the lie twist the facts as if Hitler would have been the founder of Christianity although we all know that no one defines the term Christianity if not Christ himself. So, why they twist so? Because they hate the truth in the Spirit of Christ like Satan the holy water.

● Taqiyya functionary
Christ himself was a fundamentalist
 

● Ogmios

Do you know that fundamentalists are extremists and that extremism is the very essence of fascism.
If you say that Jesus Christ the Son was a fundamentalist, then you say that the truth is fundamentalism, that humanism is fundamentalism yet you say that Godfather is a fundamentalist / extremist / fascist. In the same moment and as a logic consequence you say that the lie is moderate, yet the Pharisees -Jesus' torturers and murderer- be moderate.

Think about!

IF

however, we realize the true meaning of the term 'fundamental' [=fundament/basis], and/or 'radical' [=root/rooted] ....

....then I don't see the problem in being a Christian fundamentalist, since that would mean to have a problem with Jesus Christ himself, with his principles, with his example. Though WHO has a problem with the Spirit of Christ if not the hidden and non hidden fascists ?

Let's say

two fundamentalist men meet. The one stands for the fundamental benign [deXter] spirit the other for the fundamental sinister/malign [sinister] spirit and each of them insists on being the most high prophet/messenger ever incarnated. ...MORE ►

'FUNDAMENTALISTISCHER CHRIST' ?

WENN

wir das Wort 'fundamantal' [=fundament/basis] oder 'fundamentalist' oder 'radikal' [=Wurzel] generell dahingehend [miß]interpretieren wollen dass wir darunter eine Person verstehen die bereit ist unter Gewaltanwendung ihre Ziele durchzusetzen bzw ihre Überzeugungen aufzuzwingen, dann...

...ist Christlich fundamentalistisch dasselbe paradox  we fundamentalistisch konservativ, wie faschistischer Demokrat, rechtschaffener Betrüger oder bourgeoiser Kommunist etc.. Die jeweiligen Definitionsn schliessen sich gegenseitig aus. Fundamentalismus ist als klassischer Charakterzug der sinistren disbalancierten SS-soziopathischen Seele die metaphysische "Antimaterie" zur Stabilität des eher konservativen balancierten Individuums.
Doch die sinistre Seele ist Weltmeister auf dem Felde der irreführenden Manipulation der Sprache und Symbolik .
Wo führt das hin?
Das endet in einer Situation wo die Wahrheit, Freiheit, Demokratie, als militant abstempelt wird [kennen wir von den Sozialisten des 19Jhdt , und kommt heute im Zusammenhang mit der gewollten Islamisierung wieder hoch in Mode] und in der logischen Schlussfolgerung die Lüge [inkl. Faschismus in allen seinen (schein)heiligen facetten] als moderat propagiert wird.

● Taqiyyafunktionär

Die Kreuzzüge sind ein Beweis dafür, dass es fundamentalistische Christen gibt.
 

● Ogmios
Die Kreuzzüglrt waren gewöhnliche Menschen wie wir, die es satt waren von den Barbaren unterworfen, versklavt und geschlachtet zu werden und nach Jahrhunderten der Unterdrückung nicht mehr konnten noch wollten.

Nicht mehr und nicht weniger.
 

● Taqiyyafunktionär

Der Massenmörder in Oslo war ein christlicher Fundamentalist
 

● Ogmios
Ja wenn das so einfach wäre...Auch Hitler behauptete ein Christ zu sein. In Wahrheit war er ein schier perfekter Antichrist der den Namen Christi missbrauchte. Doch die Söhne der Lüge verdrehen so lange bis oben unten wird und Hitler als der Gründer des Christentums dasteht obwohl wir alle wissen dass niemand das Wort Christentum definiert wenn nicht Christus selbst. Warum verdrehen die Sinistren also ? Die Antwort ist so einfach wie logisch: Sie fürchten die Wahrheit im Geiste Christi wie der Teufel das Weihwasser.

● Taqiyyafunktionär

Christus selbst war ein fundamentalist
 

● Ogmios

Du weisst das Fundamentalisten Extremisten sind und dass Extremismus die Essenz des Faschismus ist.
Wenn du sagst dass Christus der Sohn ein Fundamentalist war, dann sagst du dass sie Wahrheit Fundamentalismus ist, dass Humanismus Fundamentalismus ist, und du sagst dass Gottvater ein Fundamentalist / Extremist / Faschist ist , then you say that the truth is fundamentalism, that humanism is fundamentalism yet you say that Godfather is a fundamentalist / extremist / fascist. In logischer Schlussfolgerung sagst du im selben Zuge dass die Lüge moderat sei und dass die Pharisäer -die Peiniger und Mörder Jesu- moderat seien.

Denk gut darüber nach!

WENN

wir jedoch die WAHRE Bedeutung des Wortes 'fundamental' [=fundament] u/o 'radikal' [=Wurzel], begreifen....

....dann sehe ich nicht Das Problem ein fundamentalistischer Christ zu sein, denn das würde bedeuten ein Problem mit Jesus Christus selbst zu haben, mit seinen Prinzipien, mit seinem lebendigen Beispiel. Doch WER hat ein Problem mit dem Geiste Christi wenn nicht die offenen und/oder kamoflierten Faschisten ?

Stell dir vor

zwei Fundamentalisten treffen sich. Der eine steht für den Geist des fundamental Gutartigen [deXter] der andere für den Geist des fundamental Bösartigen [sinister] ...MEHR ►

'CRISTIANO FONDAMENTALISTA' ?

SE

vogliamo fraintendere il termine 'fondamentale' [=fondamento/base] o 'fondamentalista' o 'radicale' [=radix/radice] nel senso che si tratti di una persona che è disposta ad usare la violenza per raggiungere i propri obiettivi o per imporre le proprie convinzioni, allora...

...fondamentalista conservativo [o fondamentalista cristiano o fascista democratico] sono definizioni paradosse che si escludono a vicenda. Il fondamentalismo è una caratteriscia classica dell'anima sinistra [fuori bilancia=estremista, SS-sociopatica], ma non dell'atteggiamento di un individuo equilibrato conservatore.

Un cristiano fondamentalista è un paradosso inesistente. Sarebbe come se qualcuno ti parlasse di un ingannatore affidabile o giusto, o come di parlare di comunisti borghesi, ma gli ipocriti sinistri sono davvero i campioni del mondo su questo campo della manipolazione del linguaggio con il gioco delle parole.

Si finisce poi in una situazione in cui la verità, la libertà, democrazia etc viene definita come militante [conosciamo questa realta dal socialismo del 19.secolo e ritorna di moda oggi in connessione con l'islamizzazione intenzionale sistematica] e la bugia [incluso fascismi in tutte le facettature ipocrite] come moderata.

● Funzionario taqiyya

Vedi le crociate sono la prova che esiste il fondamentalista cristiano.

● Ogmios

Le crociate sono state fatte da gente comune come tutti noi, stufa di essere sottomoessa, schiavizzata, macellata dai barbari, e che quindi dopo secoli di sottomissione barbarica non ne poteva piu. Non di piu' e non di meno.

● Funzionario taqiyya

L'assassino di massa di Oslo era un cristiano fondamentalista

● Ogmios

Magari, fosse cosi semplice. Anche Hitler ha affermato di essere cristiano. In realta' era un perfetto anticristo che abusaba del nome di Cristo. Ma i figli della bugia e manipolazione la mettono come se Hitler fosse stato il fondatore del Cristianesimo nonostante tutti sappiamo che nessuno definisce il termine Cristiano se non Cristo. E perche la girano cosi? La risposta e' tanto semplica quanto logica: Temono la verita' nello spirito di Cristo come satana l'acqua santa.

● Funzionario taqiyya

Christo era fondamentalista

● Ogmios

Tu sai che fondamentalisti sono estremist e che estremismo rappresenta l'essenza del fascismo.
Nel momento che affermi che il filgio era fondamentalista, affermi che la verita' e' fondamentalista, che umanismo sia fondamentalismo e addiritura che padredio sia fondamentalista / estremista / fascista. E nello stesso momento come consequenza logica affermi che la bugia sia moderata e che i farisei -torturatori ed assassini di Gesu- siano moderati.

Pensaci sopra bene!

Ogmios 25.07.11

SE

invece ci rendiamo conto del vero significato del termine 'fondamentale' [=fondamento] o 'radicale [=radice] ...

.... allora non vedo il problema di essere un fondamentalista cristiano, perché ciò significherebbe di avere un problema con lo stesso Gesù Cristo Signore e Salvatore, con i suoi principi e con il suo esempio. CHI ha un problema con lo Spirito di Cristo, se non i fascisti camuffati e non ?

Mettiamo il caso

che due uomini fondamentalisti si incontrino. L'uno e' fondamentalista nello spirito benigno [deXter] mentre l'atro e' fondamentalista nello spirito maligno [sinistro]. SEGUE ►

FREEDOM OF RELIGION/BELIEVE  IS A PRIVATE MATTER AND CAN NOT BE A PRETEXT FOR SPECIAL RIGHTS TO ANYONE.

SO, AUTHENTIC RELIGION/ BELIEVE IS A PRIVATE MATTER

ISLAM IS NOT ! A PRIVATE MATTER!

AUTHENTIC RELIGION/BELIEVE ROOTS IN BENIGN SPIRIT

ISLAM DOES NOT ! ROOT IN BENIGN SPIRIT

Ogmios 28.01.11

●"Der Islam

Islamisierung geschieht wenn sich genügend Moslems in einem Land befinden um für ihre sogenannten religösen Rechten zu agitieren. Wenn politisch korrekte, tolerante und kulturell verschiedene Gesellschaften den Forderungen nach ihren religiösen Rechten zustimmen erhalten die Muslime unter der Hand auch die anderen Komponenten."

 ['Sklaverei, Terrorismus & Islam' von Dr.Peter Hammond]

“In keiner anderen Kultur, geschweige denn Religion findet sich die Kodifizierung von Mord, Raub, Versklavung und Tributabpressung als religiöse Pflicht. In keiner anderen Religion findet sich die geheiligte Legitimation von Gewalt als Wille Gottes gegenüber Andersgläubigen, wie sie der Islam als integralen Bestandteil seiner Ideologie im Koran kodifiziert und in der historischen Praxis bestätigt hat.”

[Orientalist und Publizist Hans Peter Raddatz]
 

● … Sie leben nach ihren eigenen Gesetzen, ihren eigenen Methoden, ihren eigenen Riten. Nie würden sie ihren Kindern erlauben, Deutsche zu heiraten. Das Klima ist so gewalttätig, dass sich Polizei und Jugendamt oft scheuen, das deutsche Recht durchzusetzen.

 [Buschkowsky - Bürgermeister von Neukölln]

● "The teaching of the Koran,

the social and political SYSTEM of Islam, his moral principles as well as its laws are grounded on the autocracy of Allah. In its core Islam shows all essential features of fascism. "

 Jaya Gopal [Indian Writer]

● Islam does not proscribe the violence, but governs it.

● Islam does not base on the equality of all people before God, but on the inferiority of the non-muslims.

● Islam does not recognize reciprocity of rights and obligations between Muslims and non Muslims - the "infidels" are wrong from the outset.

[Manfred Kleine-Hartlage, author of the book 'Dschihad System']

 

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● Der Islam  ächtet nicht die Gewalt, er regelt sie.

● Der Islam geht nicht von der Gleichheit aller Menschen vor Gott aus, sondern von der Minderwertigkeit der Ungläubigen.

● Der Islam erkennt keine Gegenseitigkeit von Rechten und Pflichten im Verhältnis zwischen Muslimen und Nichtmuslimen an – die „Ungläubigen“ sind von Vornherein im Unrecht.

[Manfred Kleine-Hartlage, der Autor des Buches  Dschihad-Systems]

 

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● L'Islam non vieta la violenza, mal la governa.

● L'Islam non si basa sull'uguaglianza di tutti gli uomini davanti a Dio, ma sull'inferiorità dei non-musulmani.

● L'Islam non riconosce la reciprocità di diritti e obblighi fra Musulmani e non musulmani, ma i "non credenti" sono in torto fin dall'inizio.

[Manfred Kleine-Hartlage, autore del libro Dschihad System]

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ISLAM VX CONSTITUTION >

Nahezu alle Verfassungen, deren Staatsvolk mehrheitlich dem Islam angehört, enthalten den sogenannten Scharia-Vorbehalt, das heißt, es wird festgestellt, dass die Quelle allen und also auch des weltlichen Rechts der Koran und die Scharia sind.

Hier zeigt sich deutlich und unmissverständlich, dass der Islam seine Religion und seine weltliche Verfassung als untrennbar betrachtet. Es können also die Vorstellungen von Menschenwürde gemäß dem (im jüdisch-christlichen Geiste geschriebenen*) Grundgesetzes und diejenigen des Islams nicht identisch sein. Ein Imam, der die Menschenwürde des Islams lehrt, kommt notwendig in einen Widerspruch zu unserer Verfassung.

*Zufügung Ogmios 

 [Dr.Karl Doering, Professor for international law]   ..MEHR >

If we want to set up a definition for "religion" first we have to acknowledge its sense&task.

The higher sense&task of religion shall be defined as the same higher sense&task of life itself =

HEALING THROUGH MENTAL & INTELLIGENCE GROWTH ! >

EXCESSIVE RITUALISM

The strong tendency toward ritualism [especially if of SUPPLICATIVE / SELFISH character instead of thanksgiving character] nutures itself from [is expression of /bases on] an EGOISM.

EGOISM however is not the foundation of religion, but the foundation of

ANTI-RELIGION!

Excessive rituality has one more important taqiyya function, which is to camouflage the real [unholy] targets of the ideology behind its false holy superficial shine.

25.10.10                

Growth through education means not only by theory but first of all by

PRACTICAL LIFE EXPERIENCE

Practical experience is possible in individual freedom and democracy, certainly not in suppressive totalitarian systems like islam.

Growth bases on the presupposition of

THE RESPECT FOR LIFE !

Hatred seed, war monger, halal killing, pedophilia, are the contrary of respect for life!

Growth bases on the respect of the

UNIVERSAL QUALITY PRINCIPLES >

AUTHENTIC HEALING

WORKS FIRST OF ALL FROM INSIDE TO OUTSIDE,

RATHER THAN FROM OUTSIDE TO INSIDE.

This is why the basics of authentic religion MUST be private matter.

Now, if we recognize this higher spiritual task, then we understand that religion MUST transport [and educate through]

 BENIGN BASICS

[=benign spiritual&mental food based on respective unmistakable/believable life example/s], because it is IMPOSSIBLE to heal through malign mental food.

Only benign content can be defined as religion. Benign does not mean that even the distinction between good [benign] and bad [malign] or that even a warning before the malign must be forbidden, that would again be a dictate instead of religion.

Note: This has NOTHING to do with 'POSITIVISM' which again without any tangent is nothing else than just another atheist ideology.

OFFENSIVE VX DEFENSIVE !

Distinction and warning is defensive[!] and the benign has to be distinguished from and has to be defended before the malign. Offensive basics/content can/may/shall NEVER be defined as religion, because this is effect on the individuals metaphysic is de facto not healing but a sickening effect = ANTI-religion.

TOTALITARIAN/IDEOLOGICAL

VX INSPIRATIONAL >

BALANCE VX IMBALANCE!

Is there anyone who doubts pedofilia, subjugation of women or 'dhimmi-status' to be fruits of a doctrine of imbalance ?

Religious

is a person who -without ever neglecting his own thinkwork - takes an example of the character and principles of Christ, Buddha, Krishna and other authentic, benign teachers instead of doing the exact opposite, no matter whether and to which earthly church he claims his association and which Names he eventually abused for his insane or inhuman acts.

 Ogmios 05.11.10

Religiös

ist ein Mensch der sich -ohne sein eigenes Denken jemals zu vernachlässigen - ein Charakter- und Prinzipienbeispiel an Christus, Buddha, Krishna und anderen authentischen, benignen Lehrern nimmt, und nicht einer der das genaue Gegenteil tut, ganz egal ob und zu was für einen irdischen Kirchenverein er sich angehörtig erklärt und welche Namen er für seine ungesunden o. unmenschlichen Taten missbraucht.

 Ogmios 05.11.10

>---Atheist

So by analogy despite of the continuous succession of self-styled preachers who do nothing but write their own version of the biblical message, in order to falsify it for their own purposes, you just do the same.

>---Ogmios

Apart from the fact that as a demagogue of the vacuum an individuum or your stamp will certainly be the last one in the universe to take care about the bible ... I never talked about the bible, neither do I possess it, just as Jesus Christ didn't possess it. Most probably you would have said the same thing to Jesus Christ 2000 years ago when instead of the expected wealthy king a spiritual one came along in the clothes of a very simple [though highly intelligent] man, you would have condemned him for blaphemy.

Keep in mind: The term 'Christianity' does not deduct from bible nor from church or clercy or anything else but from

 CHRIST!

22.08.11